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Thread Archive => STAR 2018 => Topic started by: Ray916MN on May 21, 2018, 01:01:18 AM

Title: Route Index
Post by: Ray916MN on May 21, 2018, 01:01:18 AM

We have had several members report problems accessing the route files the last few days as well as several members registering for the forum for the first time. Notification (to me) issues have been sorted out so there should be no more delays on my end. If you do not see a "Downloads" on the top menu between Contact and Mileage Logger you are NOT in the MSTA Member group and will not have access to the route files. If you click one of the links in the index below and get "You are not allowed to view the Downloads", likewise, you are NOT in the MSTA Group. If you are a current MSTA paid member and need access click this link (http://ridemsta.com/mstaforums/index.php?action=profile;area=groupmembership). Thanks, webmaster (NinjaBob)



 All routes have been uploaded. Click on the link to the Route Index to get an overview of all the routes available and easy access to GPS files, route sheets, route descriptions and maps.


Change log:
5-21 Map added to route index
5-21 reloaded the attachment so the hyperlinks in the PDF file work.
5-22 Roger's Rustic Tours uploaded and added to the index. Index changed to hyperlink
6-1 Pre-rides and road construction and closure reviews complete. Mindoro Cut has potential to be closed for construction alternative routes created, Ride Like a MN Alphabet Roads w/Highlights, Ride Like a MN Named Roads, Tri-State Boogie, Towards TWiSTAR, Bluff and River Bouncing to Pikes Peak and Wisconsin Highlight Routes revised for road closures. Route maps replaced with route maps including route descriptions, ADV routes and route maps and descriptions uploaded, Links added so all Street and/or all Lunch Ride GPX files and Route Sheets can be downloaded in a zip file. Routes scrubbed by Norm Kern.
6-2 Turn by turn route sheets for ADV routes added along with MUST CARRY PERMIT for ADV Route 1. All GPS route files and route sheets packaged into a Zip file and linked to the "Click Here to Download All" for the ADV section of the index.
6-4 Correct Tri-State Boogie route sheet uploaded and inserted into the STreet GPX and Route files Zip.
6-8 Links added to the Route Index to allow sll Street, ADV or Lunch maps and descriptions to be downloaded as zip files

Click here for the latest copy of the Route Index (http://36000bph.com/STAR/6-8 STAR 2018 Route Index - Secured.pdf)
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: naustin on May 21, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
I wasn't initially able to see the Members Only Downloads for the STAR Routes. 


I was, however, able to follow some cookie crumbs from the "Recent Downloads" and link to the proper directory to download all the files.  But, for some reason I am restricted from viewing one of the parent directories, and can't navigate to the STAR download folder the normal way. 


Not sure if its just me, or if this might be affecting others.  Just an FYI for anyone it may concern!
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: NinjaBob on May 21, 2018, 11:59:08 AM
Nick, your current member group is "Forum Member" The STAR routes are restricted to MSTA members only. At least they are supposed to be.
To upgrade your status see my post in Welcome Mat section
or http://www.ridemsta.com/mstaforums/index.php?topic=2362.0 (http://www.ridemsta.com/mstaforums/index.php?topic=2362.0)

I wasn't initially able to see the Members Only Downloads for the STAR Routes. 


I was, however, able to follow some cookie crumbs from the "Recent Downloads" and link to the proper directory to download all the files.  But, for some reason I am restricted from viewing one of the parent directories, and can't navigate to the STAR download folder the normal way. 


Not sure if its just me, or if this might be affecting others.  Just an FYI for anyone it may concern!
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Ride4MS on May 21, 2018, 09:10:06 PM
Just to let everyone know, here are the step by step details to find the GPS files for the STAR 2018 Routes.



Sign onto the forum and select the "download" tab at the top of the page.
Then select "GPS Files"
Then select "GPS Files - Members Only"
That will open a page showing STAR files from the past 5 years (see attached) select "2018 STAR"
Then select "download a file"

Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: PYG RYDR on May 29, 2018, 08:37:31 AM
Did I miss the ADV tracks being posted? 

Or are they not available?

TIA
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Ride4MS on May 29, 2018, 09:58:31 AM
ADV and Rustic roads are being ridden before posting.
See  May 21 posting
Title: ADV Routes
Post by: Sherry on May 30, 2018, 08:49:21 PM
ADV routes all ridden and tweaks being made due to bridges out and roads closed (typical MN and WI for spring maintenance).  Hope to have GPX routes posted very soon and the PDF's shortly after.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: RIDEMYST on May 31, 2018, 02:53:25 AM
Thanks for all of the up front work you guys are doing! -JEP-


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Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: stevegrab on May 31, 2018, 11:45:07 AM
Thanks for all of the up front work you guys are doing! -JEP-


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I second that emotion :)  Putting routes together is a lot of work, getting them into GPS even more and checking for all those last minute changes is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: PYG RYDR on June 02, 2018, 09:22:41 AM
Did I miss the ADV tracks being posted? 

Or are they not available?

TIA

I downloaded the ADV routes information.

Thank you for your hard work!

Regards,

Galen
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Ray916MN on June 02, 2018, 05:53:04 PM
With a bit of luck everything is complete with today's addition of the turn by turn route sheets for the ADV rides.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: stk0308 on June 03, 2018, 02:55:40 PM
Thanks for all the hard work folks.  Now to try and pick something to ride!
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Woovis on June 06, 2018, 12:19:15 PM
What mapset and calculation options were set with these routes? 
I'm having trouble, they want to change quite a bit.  I'm using map 2019.1 in Basecamp, Zumo 590

Thanks in advance,-W-
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Ray916MN on June 06, 2018, 03:22:58 PM
What mapset and calculation options were set with these routes? 
I'm having trouble, they want to change quite a bit.  I'm using map 2019.1 in Basecamp, Zumo 590

Thanks in advance,-W-

There were 3 different Basecamp implementation used to generate the routes. One for Carl's routes, one for the Rustic Routes and another for the rest. Tracks were generated and matched to the intended route and included in the route files with the intent that users use the tracks to generate routes to prevent different mapbases and routing preferences from causing problems. If that isn't working for you, let me know which routes you're having problems with and I'll track down the mapbase and settings that were used to create the routes.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: naustin on June 06, 2018, 04:51:45 PM
Tracks were generated and matched to the intended route and included in the route files with the intent that users use the tracks to generate routes to prevent different mapbases and routing preferences from causing problems.


That is a good tip!  :trink39:
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Woovis on June 06, 2018, 05:06:30 PM
Aha! Yes, that's the tip I needed...Thanks!
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: normkern on June 07, 2018, 08:31:37 AM
In Basecamp, using different route profile settings causes routes to calculate differently. If you have customized the profiles, that virtually guarantees calculation differences. Best to keep it simple and use the most common standard profiles.

When I scrubbed the road routes, I used the Automobile driving profile. For ADV routes, I used the Dirt Biking profile.

Many people try to use the Motorcycling profile because "that's what I'm doing!" You will have a very difficult time getting routes to calculate properly because the Motorcycling profile avoidances include
Interstate highways
Major highways

Mapset used was City Navigator North America NT 2019.1

Norm Kern
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: stevegrab on June 07, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
Between this and other issues with my new as of yet untraveled Zumo 660 I expect to be getting lost a lot :) Sounds like I'll have company.

Leaving Ohio shortly for Michigan, then the trip starts for real early tomorrow AM.  See lots of you in LaCrosse in about a few days.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: allonm on June 08, 2018, 12:15:17 PM
This is something I have learned in Colorado back in 2012 from Norm.
I always create a route from a track. Unlike a route, track doesn't take into account the maps it was created on.



Tracks were generated and matched to the intended route and included in the route files with the intent that users use the tracks to generate routes to prevent different mapbases and routing preferences from causing problems.


That is a good tip!  :trink39:
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: naustin on June 08, 2018, 04:48:59 PM
So do you create the route in Basecamp, and then upload to device.  Or, do you use basecamp to upload the track to the device, and then have the device itself create the route?
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Ray916MN on June 08, 2018, 05:07:11 PM
So do you create the route in Basecamp, and then upload to device.  Or, do you use basecamp to upload the track to the device, and then have the device itself create the route?

Right click on the track in Basecamp and click on "Create Route from Selected Track"

Make sure the route matches the track. Click on the route and then upload it.

If your route preferences and settings on your GPS don't match the settings you use on Basecamp, you want to disable recalculation on your GPS unit to prevent it from potentially altering the route you've uploaded.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: garyfourman on June 08, 2018, 05:51:54 PM
OK, from http://36000bph.com/STAR/Open%20Route%20Index.pdf by .zip I've pulled down the .gpx files and .pdf's of the step-by-steps.  Rather than doing them one by one, is there a .zip or a "bulk folder" to pull down all the maps at once?  Thanks, Gary F.
Title: Re: Route Index
Post by: Ray916MN on June 08, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
OK, from http://36000bph.com/STAR/Open%20Route%20Index.pdf by .zip I've pulled down the .gpx files and .pdf's of the step-by-steps.  Rather than doing them one by one, is there a .zip or a "bulk folder" to pull down all the maps at once?  Thanks, Gary F.

Links added to allow the route descriptions and maps to be downloaded as zip files for Street, ADV and Lunch groups.